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post Sep 3 2017, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE (TotallyMari @ Feb 5 2017, 07:16 AM) *
a sequel that took them into the young adult life.


That's what I'd like to see. Instead of balancing their spy jobs with school, they would have to balance it with work and relationships.

As much as I like Jerry, he might have retired by now so maybe Sam would take over his role while still being able to help out on missions sometimes?

IIRC Clover wants to be a fashion designer so maybe she would end up moving to NYC or Paris or Milan?

One or more of them might want to get married and have kids (though of course I'd be happiest if their relationships were all yuri).

In general the girls would have to work at staying close as they inevitably grow apart into their individual adult lives. (IIRC, in "Futureshock" Alex thought it was cool they were still living together in 2025 whereas Clover was appalled they were 30something and still single.) It would be nice if they could stay as close forever as they were in high school, but I think real life is not like that, plus having them grow apart a bit would introduce more dramatic potential.

As long as I'm wishing, it would also be nice to have ongoing story arcs and character/relationship development as opposed to the more self-contained/static nature of the original show (I suppose what I'm asking for is getting into 90210 territory, which I never watched).

On a side note, I've noticed a lot of products aimed at those of us who grew up in the 80s and 90s (for example, making-of books about Masters of the Universe/She-Ra, TMNT, etc., reprints and replicas of long-discontinued comics and toys, etc.) However when I look on Amazon for TS stuff, about all I can find are DVDs of the first three seasons with no extras. It almost seems like the series has to age a little more before it gets that kind of nostalgia treatment : ( I was surprised to find that (as far as I can see) TS doesn't seem to have been made to sell action figures or other toys, since that was so common with all the cartoons I grew up with.
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TS doesn't seem to have been made to sell action figures or other toys, since that was so common with all the cartoons I grew up with.


There were some dolls, but so few of them were made, they may as well have never existed at all. I've certainly never seen them anywhere. There was more TS merchandise in Europe, where the show made more money I think (although it did pull in big ratings in 2004 until Cartoon Network decided to give it the bastard step-child treatment). You can probably still find the video games that were made though. Only one of them didn't make it to the US I think.





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post Sep 4 2017, 06:16 AM
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QUOTE (Ghidra @ Sep 3 2017, 04:39 PM) *
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TS doesn't seem to have been made to sell action figures or other toys, since that was so common with all the cartoons I grew up with.


There were some dolls, but so few of them were made, they may as well have never existed at all. I've certainly never seen them anywhere. There was more TS merchandise in Europe, where the show made more money I think (although it did pull in big ratings in 2004 until Cartoon Network decided to give it the bastard step-child treatment). You can probably still find the video games that were made though. Only one of them didn't make it to the US I think.


Yes I've seen the Clover and Alex dolls on Amazon for $120 and $140 respectively, but they don't look much like the characters IMO.

It looks like there was another set made in France. As you say that's probably a better place to look for merchandise.

I tried figurerealm but oddly found nothing there.

I'm a little more interested in some of the comics I've seen scanned here (example), as they look like they're drawn in a style that's very close to the cartoon, which is rarity in the fandoms I'm familiar with.

I also note there seem to be at least three distinct art styles used in their merchandising. Some of the products appear to just use art lifted from the show, some give them a (IMO) slightly more masculine look, and some give them a kind of stylized cutesy look that I kinda like.
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post Sep 4 2017, 09:11 AM
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Some of the products appear to just use art lifted from the show, some give them a (IMO) slightly more masculine look, and some give them a kind of stylized cutesy look that I kinda like.


The first one is from the character design style they used from Season 3 to 5. The cutesy stylized look was used in a lot of non-cartoon promo stuff early on. The comics, which re-adapt episodes, has a style similar to that (but not exactly). They were originally published in Totally Spies Magazine (which I think was only sold in French speaking countries in Europe) and then later re-printed in book format in the US (although I've never seen them anywhere other than online).





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I would love to see Alex turn evil in a 3 part episode. Like, she can be swayed by a handsome villian. (she'll be on the good side again at the end of part 3.)

I would love for Alex to have a steady boyfriend for a couple of episodes

And some adult themes




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post Nov 5 2018, 06:00 AM
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QUOTE (amysorel12 @ Nov 2 2018, 04:30 PM) *
I would love to see Alex turn evil in a 3 part episode. Like, she can be swayed by a handsome villian. (she'll be on the good side again at the end of part 3.)

I would love for Alex to have a steady boyfriend for a couple of episodes

And some adult themes


Interesting. Thanks for the post. Good to have show discussion going!

Martin Mystery would be a great match for her imo- they hit it off in the crossover.

Adult themes would be unique- can't remember a show going from kid friendly to that.
Personally, I want it to stay kid friendly for wider appeal.
(Actually introduced the kids I nanny to it a few months ago) It's been a blast picking out eps. (and the movie) for them to enjoy. tongue.gif




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QUOTE (jettmanas @ Nov 4 2018, 11:00 PM) *
QUOTE (amysorel12 @ Nov 2 2018, 04:30 PM) *
I would love to see Alex turn evil in a 3 part episode. Like, she can be swayed by a handsome villian. (she'll be on the good side again at the end of part 3.)

I would love for Alex to have a steady boyfriend for a couple of episodes

And some adult themes


Interesting. Thanks for the post. Good to have show discussion going!

Martin Mystery would be a great match for her imo- they hit it off in the crossover.

Adult themes would be unique- can't remember a show going from kid friendly to that.
Personally, I want it to stay kid friendly for wider appeal.
(Actually introduced the kids I nanny to it a few months ago) It's been a blast picking out eps. (and the movie) for them to enjoy. tongue.gif


Okay then...skip the mature themes...maybe some serious plots would be nice. Oh, and keep the same art style maybe from season 3 to 4. Oh, and I would like for Alex to be charmed by a handsome evil villian then along the line, she realizes what she's doing is wrong. Lol.




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post Nov 6 2018, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE (amysorel12 @ Nov 6 2018, 08:12 AM) *
QUOTE (jettmanas @ Nov 4 2018, 11:00 PM) *
QUOTE (amysorel12 @ Nov 2 2018, 04:30 PM) *
I would love to see Alex turn evil in a 3 part episode. Like, she can be swayed by a handsome villian. (she'll be on the good side again at the end of part 3.)

I would love for Alex to have a steady boyfriend for a couple of episodes

And some adult themes


Interesting. Thanks for the post. Good to have show discussion going!

Martin Mystery would be a great match for her imo- they hit it off in the crossover.

Adult themes would be unique- can't remember a show going from kid friendly to that.
Personally, I want it to stay kid friendly for wider appeal.
(Actually introduced the kids I nanny to it a few months ago) It's been a blast picking out eps. (and the movie) for them to enjoy. tongue.gif


Okay then...skip the mature themes...maybe some serious plots would be nice. Oh, and keep the same art style maybe from season 3 to 4. Oh, and I would like for Alex to be charmed by an handsome evil villian then along the line, she realizes what she's doing is wrong. Lol.


I vote in favor of adult themes. lol All the people who still remember TS are pretty much adults by now anyways.

Sam and Clover have both had episodes like that, but not Alex so far as far as I know.





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Alex being swayed by an handsome vilain or as I mentionned way earlier in the case of Britney, act as a vilain to do a undercover mission like Sam did in season 5.

I'd like to see Martin Mystery returning for another episode too and while we're at it, let's get Diana joining as well. smile.gif
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QUOTE (amysorel12 @ Nov 3 2018, 01:30 AM) *
I would love to see Alex turn evil in a 3 part episode. Like, she can be swayed by a handsome villian. (she'll be on the good side again at the end of part 3.)

I would love for Alex to have a steady boyfriend for a couple of episodes

And some adult themes

Nice ideias!

If I'm allowed to expand your thoughts, maybe we could consider a scenario in which that handsome villain is actually disguised as Alex's boyfriend.

This guy could be responsible not only to turn Alex a Brainwashed and Crazy, Blood Knight supervillain (in the same sense as Clover became The Dragon to Geraldine in S.3 Super Agent Much?), but he could also have a secret agenda to destroy the spies and to get revenge against WOOHP (he could be an employee who was kicked out from WOOHP due to some kind of evil deed, pretty much like Tim Scam).


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QUOTE (amysorel12 @ Nov 6 2018, 08:12 AM) *
QUOTE (jettmanas @ Nov 4 2018, 11:00 PM) *
QUOTE (amysorel12 @ Nov 2 2018, 04:30 PM) *
I would love to see Alex turn evil in a 3 part episode. Like, she can be swayed by a handsome villian. (she'll be on the good side again at the end of part 3.)

I would love for Alex to have a steady boyfriend for a couple of episodes

And some adult themes


Interesting. Thanks for the post. Good to have show discussion going!

Martin Mystery would be a great match for her imo- they hit it off in the crossover.

Adult themes would be unique- can't remember a show going from kid friendly to that.
Personally, I want it to stay kid friendly for wider appeal.
(Actually introduced the kids I nanny to it a few months ago) It's been a blast picking out eps. (and the movie) for them to enjoy. tongue.gif


Okay then...skip the mature themes...maybe some serious plots would be nice. Oh, and keep the same art style maybe from season 3 to 4. Oh, and I would like for Alex to be charmed by an handsome evil villian then along the line, she realizes what she's doing is wrong. Lol.


I vote in favor of adult themes. lol All the people who still remember TS are pretty much adults by now anyways.

Sam and Clover have both had episodes like that, but not Alex so far as far as I know.

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QUOTE (Kira Yamato @ Nov 19 2018, 02:37 PM) *
This guy could be responsible not only to turn Alex a Brainwashed and Crazy, Blood Knight supervillain (in the same sense as Clover became The Dragon to Geraldine in S.3 Super Agent Much?), but he could also have a secret agenda to destroy the spies and to get revenge against WOOHP (he could be an employee who was kicked out from WOOHP due to some kind of evil deed, pretty much like Tim Scam).[/size][/font][/color]

Can I ask for an uncensored Anime Bath Scene? Can I? Can I!? tongue.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Or an unknown guy like Edison who kidnapped and brainwashed Pam, Crimson and Alice in Spies vs Spies.

I guess we might have an anime bath scene with swimsuits like the episode "Ski trip". http://woohp.org/gallery/displayimage.php?...m=52&pos=88
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I guess we might have an anime bath scene with swimsuits like the episode "Ski trip". http://woohp.org/gallery/displayimage.php?...m=52&pos=88


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Can I ask for an uncensored Anime Bath Scene? Can I? Can I!? tongue.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Yes, you can. That should happen. XD Sam-icon.pngMandy-icon.pngAlex-icon.gifClover-icon.pngangelstar-kaos063.gif

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Have Alex have more badass moments.




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I mentioned this on another post but somewhere on this site someone mentioned how awesome it would be to see the spies now in their 20s in a show mainly aimed at adults like how Samurai Jack got a more mature season on Adult Swim. Now that is something I'd love to see! Includes casual swearing, blood from fighting and more crude humour! Something that is more mature and sophisticated than the original show.

Now as young adults, the girls are living apart from each other and starting their professional careers. I like hdc's idea of Clover living overseas as a fashion designer, maybe the distance puts an extra strain on the spies' friendship since it's harder to keep in touch with one another. The time difference makes it more difficult too, Alex & Sam in LA trying to call Clover in Milan who is 8 hours ahead. *Insert scene of exhausted bedhead Clover in her blue nightgown answering her X-powder at 3am*

For the villains maybe something like LAMOS 2.0 coming back for revenge and, as mentioned in the earlier posts, Ariel making a comeback! Sam being brainwashed into a Xena character since it's in her blood sammys.gif And of course the most evil of villains... Mandy! laugh.gif Maybe something similar to the Futureshock where she wants to take over the world, maybe she's the leader of LAMOS 2.0!

Jerry is getting on to be an old boy and maybe now has an apprentice working for him. So when Jerry finally decides to retire, this apprentice will take over WOOHP. This would be a perfect opportunity for the apprentice to actually be evil. Similar to Evil Boyfriend where they use the spy's trust for their evil deeds.

As for the spies' romantic relationships, I think having at least one of them come out as lesbian or bisexual would be pretty real (it's 2019 people!) Clover getting a girlfriend would definitely be a game changer! I mean in my ideal world I would love Clover x Sam tongue.gif Sam is lesbian, Clover is bi and Alex is straight. I can imagine Alex having a steady boyfriend in this era (Martin Mystery anyone?) and Clover being a casual hook-up hottie wink.gif Sam is a single pringle and ready to mingle (or does she have unrequited love for Clover???)
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QUOTE (Nextstopplease @ Mar 18 2019, 07:08 AM) *
I mentioned this on another post but somewhere on this site someone mentioned how awesome it would be to see the spies now in their 20s in a show mainly aimed at adults like how Samurai Jack got a more mature season on Adult Swim. Now that is something I'd love to see! Includes casual swearing, blood from fighting and more crude humour! Something that is more mature and sophisticated than the original show.

Now as young adults, the girls are living apart from each other and starting their professional careers. I like hdc's idea of Clover living overseas as a fashion designer, maybe the distance puts an extra strain on the spies' friendship since it's harder to keep in touch with one another. The time difference makes it more difficult too, Alex & Sam in LA trying to call Clover in Milan who is 8 hours ahead. *Insert scene of exhausted bedhead Clover in her blue nightgown answering her X-powder at 3am*

For the villains maybe something like LAMOS 2.0 coming back for revenge and, as mentioned in the earlier posts, Ariel making a comeback! Sam being brainwashed into a Xena character since it's in her blood sammys.gif And of course the most evil of villains... Mandy! laugh.gif Maybe something similar to the Futureshock where she wants to take over the world, maybe she's the leader of LAMOS 2.0!

Jerry is getting on to be an old boy and maybe now has an apprentice working for him. So when Jerry finally decides to retire, this apprentice will take over WOOHP. This would be a perfect opportunity for the apprentice to actually be evil. Similar to Evil Boyfriend where they use the spy's trust for their evil deeds.

As for the spies' romantic relationships, I think having at least one of them come out as lesbian or bisexual would be pretty real (it's 2019 people!) Clover getting a girlfriend would definitely be a game changer! I mean in my ideal world I would love Clover x Sam tongue.gif Sam is lesbian, Clover is bi and Alex is straight. I can imagine Alex having a steady boyfriend in this era (Martin Mystery anyone?) and Clover being a casual hook-up hottie wink.gif Sam is a single pringle and ready to mingle (or does she have unrequited love for Clover???)


I would rather see Alex getting it on with Clover! XP




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QUOTE (Nextstopplease @ Mar 18 2019, 09:08 AM) *
I mentioned this on another post but somewhere on this site someone mentioned how awesome it would be to see the spies now in their 20s in a show mainly aimed at adults like how Samurai Jack got a more mature season on Adult Swim. Now that is something I'd love to see! Includes casual swearing, blood from fighting and more crude humour! Something that is more mature and sophisticated than the original show.

Now as young adults, the girls are living apart from each other and starting their professional careers. I like hdc's idea of Clover living overseas as a fashion designer, maybe the distance puts an extra strain on the spies' friendship since it's harder to keep in touch with one another. The time difference makes it more difficult too, Alex & Sam in LA trying to call Clover in Milan who is 8 hours ahead. *Insert scene of exhausted bedhead Clover in her blue nightgown answering her X-powder at 3am*

For the villains maybe something like LAMOS 2.0 coming back for revenge and, as mentioned in the earlier posts, Ariel making a comeback! Sam being brainwashed into a Xena character since it's in her blood sammys.gif And of course the most evil of villains... Mandy! laugh.gif Maybe something similar to the Futureshock where she wants to take over the world, maybe she's the leader of LAMOS 2.0!

Jerry is getting on to be an old boy and maybe now has an apprentice working for him. So when Jerry finally decides to retire, this apprentice will take over WOOHP. This would be a perfect opportunity for the apprentice to actually be evil. Similar to Evil Boyfriend where they use the spy's trust for their evil deeds.

As for the spies' romantic relationships, I think having at least one of them come out as lesbian or bisexual would be pretty real (it's 2019 people!) Clover getting a girlfriend would definitely be a game changer! I mean in my ideal world I would love Clover x Sam tongue.gif Sam is lesbian, Clover is bi and Alex is straight. I can imagine Alex having a steady boyfriend in this era (Martin Mystery anyone?) and Clover being a casual hook-up hottie wink.gif Sam is a single pringle and ready to mingle (or does she have unrequited love for Clover???)


Your ideas are really great, but I think I would do it slightly differently. I think they could already do most of that without making them older. They're in college now. So just do more of them in college but maybe increase the sex appeal, naughtiness of the jokes, violence etc. I kind of like them living together, and college makes that logical. It really reinforces the trio dynamic of their super strong bond, and having them live apart would kind of delude that. Then of course they would be tempted to age them up even more and then introduce their children as main characters they had with their husbands, which would be pretty lame and mess up our shipping. XD

I dunno. Who knows when TS will get another season. I just hope they don't mess it up too much. Western cartoon are a whole lot worse right now. I don't want to see the spies drawn like Steven Universe with noodle arms and Calarts potato heads or something. XD

Another thing I like about TS is the ability to ship any of the characters together, because they all seem bisexual or lesbian at different times. Don't really know if it's necessary for them to come out since that would remove some of the tension about, "could they get together, is it possible?" The best thing about yuri stuff is the slow burn of subtext up until you get a payoff for a couple. It's what keeps you interested. I think the idea of coming out is becoming slightly outmoded in 2019 as well. It's just something you learn when you get to know somebody, but that's just me. Not many people fully understand my sexuality, and I don't like explaining it to everyone without prodding. laugh.gif





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I would rather see Alex getting it on with Clover! XP


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QUOTE (Nextstopplease @ Mar 18 2019, 09:08 AM) *
I mentioned this on another post but somewhere on this site someone mentioned how awesome it would be to see the spies now in their 20s in a show mainly aimed at adults like how Samurai Jack got a more mature season on Adult Swim. Now that is something I'd love to see! Includes casual swearing, blood from fighting and more crude humour! Something that is more mature and sophisticated than the original show.

Now as young adults, the girls are living apart from each other and starting their professional careers. I like hdc's idea of Clover living overseas as a fashion designer, maybe the distance puts an extra strain on the spies' friendship since it's harder to keep in touch with one another. The time difference makes it more difficult too, Alex & Sam in LA trying to call Clover in Milan who is 8 hours ahead. *Insert scene of exhausted bedhead Clover in her blue nightgown answering her X-powder at 3am*

For the villains maybe something like LAMOS 2.0 coming back for revenge and, as mentioned in the earlier posts, Ariel making a comeback! Sam being brainwashed into a Xena character since it's in her blood sammys.gif And of course the most evil of villains... Mandy! laugh.gif Maybe something similar to the Futureshock where she wants to take over the world, maybe she's the leader of LAMOS 2.0!

Jerry is getting on to be an old boy and maybe now has an apprentice working for him. So when Jerry finally decides to retire, this apprentice will take over WOOHP. This would be a perfect opportunity for the apprentice to actually be evil. Similar to Evil Boyfriend where they use the spy's trust for their evil deeds.

As for the spies' romantic relationships, I think having at least one of them come out as lesbian or bisexual would be pretty real (it's 2019 people!) Clover getting a girlfriend would definitely be a game changer! I mean in my ideal world I would love Clover x Sam tongue.gif Sam is lesbian, Clover is bi and Alex is straight. I can imagine Alex having a steady boyfriend in this era (Martin Mystery anyone?) and Clover being a casual hook-up hottie wink.gif Sam is a single pringle and ready to mingle (or does she have unrequited love for Clover???)


Your ideas are really great, but I think I would do it slightly differently. I think they could already do most of that without making them older. They're in college now. So just do more of them in college but maybe increase the sex appeal, naughtiness of the jokes, violence etc. I kind of like them living together, and college makes that logical. It really reinforces the trio dynamic of their super strong bond, and having them live apart would kind of delude that. Then of course they would be tempted to age them up even more and then introduce their children as main characters they had with their husbands, which would be pretty lame and mess up our shipping. XD

I dunno. Who knows when TS will get another season. I just hope they don't mess it up too much. Western cartoon are a whole lot worse right now. I don't want to see the spies drawn like Steven Universe with noodle arms and Calarts potato heads or something. XD

Another thing I like about TS is the ability to ship any of the characters together, because they all seem bisexual or lesbian at different times. Don't really know if it's necessary for them to come out since that would remove some of the tension about, "could they get together, is it possible?" The best thing about yuri stuff is the slow burn of subtext up until you get a payoff for a couple. It's what keeps you interested. I think the idea of coming out is becoming slightly outmoded in 2019 as well. It's just something you learn when you get to know somebody, but that's just me. Not many people fully understand my sexuality, and I don't like explaining it to everyone without prodding. laugh.gif


Good points as well, including design choices (I agree on much of western cartoons) and subtext of relationships.
Marvel Rising has a nice artstyle, and has some interesting female friendships, such as Kamala & Doreen (Squirrel Girl), Doreen and others, stuff w/Gwen, and so on.

But yeah, I wouldn't want the show to start over from when they first meet. Building on the foundation already set & so much backstory is something I enjoy. smile.gif




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I can't really take the SJW make-overs of those characters seriously. They took away Miss Marvel's costume and femininity and made her dress in a coservative body suit as Captain Marvel, and then made the new Miss Marvel into a Muslim fangirl (I wonder if she supports the state of Israel or is like Representatives Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib and thinks it shouldn't exist, hmm laugh.gif). Gwen Stacy should be dead, and what they did to Squirrel Girl's character design was ridiculous. That America character was probably the biggest abortion in comics sales ever, yet Marvel still wants to promote her via a cartoon.

I think Marvel's time in the lime light may be eclipsing soon. Everyone I know is giving up on it after End Game. That doesn't include me though. I haven't seen a Marvel movie since the first Deadpool (and an official MCU movie since Avengers 1) and haven't bought a Marvel Comic since 2012. But that's just me though. I used to be a big Marvel fan, but then they gave the entire thing to Twitter/Tumblr clique people to run into the ground. Whatever people think of Totally Spies, at least it has existed separate of Starbucks's hipster political correctness (even mocking it at times). I wonder how much longer that will last? lol





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